Noldorin
menel
noun. *the heavens
Cognates
- ᴹQ. menel “the heavens, firmament, sky”
Derivations
- ᴹ√MENEL “heaven, sky”
Element in
ell
noun. sky
Derivations
Element in
Phonetic Developments
Development Stages Sources On. elle > ell > el [elle] > [ell] > [el] ✧ Ety/ƷEL Variations
- el ✧ Ety/SPAR (el); Ety/THOR (el); EtyAC/ƷEL (
el)
An element meaning “sky” in several names from The Etymologies of the 1930s: N. Elfaron “Sky-hunter” (Ety/SPAR) and N. Elthoron “Eagle of the Sky” (Ety/THOR). It was derived from the root ᴹ√ƷEL “sky” which had an Old Noldorin form: ON. elle (Ety/ƷEL). However, Tolkien said “In Noldorin and Telerin this is confused with EL star”, implying that the word was not used in modern language; an earlier but rejected version of this entry had archaic N. †ell, el “sky” (EtyAC/ƷEL).
Neo-Sindarin: Despite the above statements, ell is probably the best attested option for “sky” in Neo-Sindarin, and I would use it as such, since it is in fact distinct from S. êl “star”, a word that is itself archaic/poetic versus more common S. gil.