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stumbled onto this wonderful website a few months ago and have been refreshing my elvish. I learned back in the early 90's before the internet using the history of Middle-Earth collection (half complete), and a Dictionary of Middle-Earth to deconstruct name sand learn word, translating EVERYTHING!

I have been using the Elvish name Findëonáro "Finde(o)nár-(o)" "Hair(of)Fire-(Masc. End)" for over twenty years but after seeing more here I now see that náro already means "of Fire". Is the middle -o- (of) redundant? but -o- doubles as a masculine ending so I put it at the end of the mashup "Findëonár"-o to make a masculine name.

My current name (Findenáro) is without the middle -o- and feels not as flamboyant. less syllables. would having it be Findëonáro confusing?

like Finde-o(naro) meaning Hair-of(of fire) or is it still translated correctly?

Welcome to Parf Edhellen, we are happy to have you here!

I would certainly recommend Findenáro, but for different reasons than you outlined above. For one, namens usually don't seem to contain genitive morphems: Annatar "Lord of Gifts" is just anna + tar "Gift-lord". There is only one word that could potentially contain a genitive, Fëanáro but since it's only found in this name, the prevailing idea is that this is just a masculine suffix. Thus: Findenáro "hair-fire-masc".

Other possible forms with the more usual Quenya ordering would be Narfin and Narfinde (with possible further extrapolations to Narfindil, Narfindel, Narfindele, etc.).

Oh! hantanyë lyen (I give thanks i believe?) so much every one. It seems the shortened version is better. Narfin is very interesting, but I always liked that Findëonáro (now Findenáro) sounded similar to the Quenya name Fëanáro :) but I might use Narfindel that for my Mother's name as I got my red hair from her. again thank you for the insight!

this place is wonderful.