Sindarin 

thindrim

collective name. Sindar

A Sindarin equivalent of Q. Sindar (VT41/9), a combination of thind “grey” and the class-plural suffix -rim.

Cognates

  • Q. Sinda “Grey-elf” ✧ VT41/09

Elements

WordGloss
thind“grey, grey, [N.] pale”
-rim“collective or group plural”

mithrim

place name. Sindar

A lake in northwest Beleriand (S/106) named after the Elves who lived there (WJ/378). This name was the inspiration for Q. Sindar (PE17/140), and is a combination of mith “grey” and the class-plural suffix -rim (SA/mith, rim).

Conceptual Development: In the earliest Lost Tales, this lake was called G. Asgon (L1T1/238, GL/20), revised to ᴱN. Mithrim towards the end of the tales (LT2/202). The form N. Mithrim appeared in Silmarillion drafts from the 1930s (SM/4, LR/249), and also in The Etymologies, but with its first element being N. mith “white fog, wet mist” and its second element N. rhim “cold pool or lake (in mountains)”, hence “✱Mist Lake” (Ety/MITH, RINGI). The derivation from the name of the people came later (WJ/378), perhaps inspired in the real world by Q. Sindar, the reverse of the inspiration in the fictional world.

Element in

Elements

WordGloss
mith“grey, light grey, pale grey”
-rim“collective or group plural”
Sindarin [PE17/140; SA/mith; SA/rim; SI/Mithrim; UTI/Mithrim; WJ/378; WJI/Mithrim] Group: Eldamo. Published by

thend

noun. *Sinda, Grey-Elf

Changes

  • thind → thend ✧ PE17/140
  • thinið → thineð ✧ PE17/141

Cognates

  • Q. Sinda “Grey-elf” ✧ PE17/141; PE17/140; PE17/141

Derivations

  • ✶thindā “grey” ✧ PE17/141; PE17/141

Element in

  • S. Thenneth “*Grey-Elf (f.)” ✧ PE17/140; PE17/140; PE17/141; PE17/141
  • S. Thennor “*Grey-Elf (m.)” ✧ PE17/140; PE17/140; PE17/141; PE17/141

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
✶thindā > thenn[tʰindā] > [tʰinda] > [θinda] > [θenda] > [θend] > [θenn]✧ PE17/141
✶thinida > thineð[tʰinida] > [θinida] > [θineda] > [θineða] > [θineð]✧ PE17/141

Variations

  • thend ✧ PE17/140; PE17/141 (thend)
  • thind ✧ PE17/140 (thind)
  • Thinn(d) ✧ PE17/140
  • thenn ✧ PE17/141
  • Thind ✧ PE17/141
  • thineð ✧ PE17/141
  • thinið ✧ PE17/141 (thinið)
Sindarin [PE17/140; PE17/141] Group: Eldamo. Published by

mîth

noun. *Sinda, Grey-Elf

Derivations

  • ✶mītha “*grey” ✧ PE17/140

Element in

  • S. Mithres “Grey-Elf (f.)” ✧ PE17/140; PE17/140 (mithrel*)
  • S. Mithron “*Grey-Elf (m.)” ✧ PE17/140

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
✶mītha > mîth[mītha] > [mīth]✧ PE17/140

Variations

  • mîth ✧ PE17/140
  • maeth ✧ PE17/140
  • mith ✧ PE17/140
  • maiþ ✧ PE17/140 (maiþ)
  • mĭth ✧ PE17/140 (mĭth)

send

sinda

#send (i hend, o send, construct sen) _(probably a term only used by the Noldor, borrowed from Quenya Sinda)_, pl. sind (i sind), coll. pl. Sendrim (the only attested form) = Quenya Sindar. As coll. pl. also Thindrim (VT41:9). The Sindar could also be called Eluwaith (e.g. _Elu-_people, the subjects of Elu Thingol: Elu + gwaith); this word was maybe only used in the First Age when Thingol was alive. The Sindar called themselves ELVES; see under FORSAKEN.

send

sinda

(i hend, o send, construct sen) (probably a term only used by the Noldor, borrowed from Quenya Sinda), pl. sind (i sind), coll. pl. Sendrim (the only attested form) = Quenya Sindar. As coll. pl. also Thindrim (VT41:9). The Sindar could also be called Eluwaith (e.g. Elu-people, the subjects of Elu Thingol: Elu + gwaith); this word was maybe only used in the First Age when Thingol was alive. The Sindar called themselves