saw

noun. filth

_n. _filth, putrescence. Tolkien seems to have rejected the root SAWA, noting: "No. THAW-, cruel. saura, cruel. Gorthaur-."

saw

noun. filth, putrescence

Cognates

• Q. söa “filth” ✧ PE17/183

Derivations

• ✶sawā “filth” ✧ PE17/183
  • √SAW “disgusting, foul, vile; bad, unhealthy, ill, wretched” ✧ PE17/183

Phonetic Developments

Development	Stages	Sources
✶sawā > saw	[sawā] > [sawa] > [saw] > [sau]	✧ PE17/183

saw

juice

1) saw (i haw, o saw), pl. soe (i soe). In ”Noldorin”, the pl. was sui (LR:385 s.v. SAB). 2) *paich (i baich, o phaich) (syrup), pl. pîch (i phîch). The source (LR:382 s.v. PIS) cites the archaic form peich.

saw

juice

(i haw, o saw), pl. soe (i soe). In ”Noldorin”, the pl. was sui (LR:385 s.v. SAB).

tharf

noun. saw

Cognates

• ᴺQ. sarma “saw”

Derivations

• √THAR “*across, beyond, [ᴹ√] across, beyond”

nîdh

noun. juice, [N.] honeycomb; [S.] juice

A noun for “juice” appearing in 1970 green-ink revisions to the Outline of Phonology (OP2), derived from ✶negdē “exudation” based on the root √NEG “ooze, drip”; its Quenya cognate was Q. nehtë “honey” (PE19/91). Sindarin nîdh was a later iteration of N. {nēdh >>} nīdh “honeycomb” in The Etymologies of the 1930s which had essentially the same derivation (EtyAC/NEG). This in turn was a later form of G. nectha “honey comb” in the Gnomish Lexicon of the 1910s (GL/60), cognate to ᴱQ. nekte “honey” and hence derived from the early root ᴱ√NEHE having to do with bees and honey (QL/65).

Neo-Sindarin: For purposes of Neo-Sindarin, I’d use nîdh with its earlier meaning “honeycomb”. For “juice” I’d use other words like [N.] saw and [ᴺS.] paich (adapted from N. peich).

Cognates

• Q. nehtë “honey, honey; [ᴹQ.] honeycomb” ✧ PE19/091

Derivations

• ✶negdē “exudation” ✧ PE19/091
  • √NEG “‽ooze, drip, ooze, drip; *honey” ✧ PE19/091

Phonetic Developments

Development	Stages	Sources
✶negdē > nîdh	[negdē] > [neidē] > [neide] > [nīde] > [nīðe] > [nīð]	✧ PE19/091

Variations

• nîdh ✧ PE19/091

nîdh

noun. juice

juice

paich

noun. juice, syrup

tíra-

verb. to see

Element in

• S. edregol e aníra tírad i Cherdir Perhael (i sennui Panthael estathar aen) Condir i Drann “in especial he desires to see Master Samwise (who should be called Fullwise) Mayor of the Shire” ✧ AotM/062; SD/129
• ᴺS. tírad “vision, seeing”

paich

juice

(i baich, o phaich) (syrup), pl. pîch (i phîch). The source (LR:382 s.v. PIS) cites the archaic form peich.