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nehte

noun. honey

honey

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nehtë

noun. honey, honey; [ᴹQ.] honeycomb

A noun for “honey” appearing in 1970 green-ink revisions to the Outline of Phonology (OP2) derived from ✶negdē “exudation” based on the root √NEG “ooze, drip” (PE19/91). It was a later iteration of ᴹQ. nehte “honeycomb” in The Etymologies of the 1930s which had essentially the same derivation (EtyAC/NEG). This in turn was a later form of ᴱQ. nekte “honey” from the Qenya Lexicon of the 1910s derived from the early root ᴱ√NEHE having to do with bees and honey (QL/65).

Neo-Quenya: For purposes of Neo-Quenya, I’d use this word only for “honey”. For “honeycomb” I’d use ᴺQ. nehtelë inspired by ᴱQ. nektele “honeycomb” (QL/65)

Cognates

  • S. nîdh “juice, [N.] honeycomb; [S.] juice” ✧ PE19/091
  • T. nettë “honey” ✧ PE19/091

Derivations

  • negdē “exudation” ✧ PE19/091
    • NEG “‽ooze, drip, ooze, drip; *honey” ✧ PE19/091

Element in

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
negdē > nehte[negdē] > [nektē] > [nextē] > [nexte]✧ PE19/091

Variations

  • nehte ✧ PE19/091

nehtë

angle

nehtë (1) noun "angle" (PE17:55), any formation or projection tapering to a point: a spearhead, gore, wedge, narrow promontory (UT:282). Variant neccë.

nehtë

honeycomb

nehtë (2) noun "honeycomb" (VT45:38)

nehtë

noun. spearhead, gore, wedge, narrow prominitory; angle

Cognates

  • S. naith “spearhead, gore, wedge, narrow prominitory; angle” ✧ PE17/055; PE17/055; UT/282

Derivations

  • nektē “angle” ✧ PE17/055; PE17/055
    • NEK “narrow, narrow; *angular, sharp” ✧ PE17/055
  • NEK “narrow, narrow; *angular, sharp” ✧ UT/282

Element in

  • Q. nernehta “man-spearhead” ✧ UT/282

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
nek-tē > nehte[nektē] > [nextē] > [nexte]✧ PE17/055
nekte > nehte[nekte] > [nexte]✧ PE17/055
nek > nehte[nekte] > [nexte]✧ UT/282

Variations

  • nehte ✧ PE17/055; PE17/055; UT/282
  • nekke ✧ PE17/055
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nectë

honey

nectë noun "honey" (LT1:262; Tolkien's later Quenya has lis; otherwise, nectë would have had to become nehtë_, a form appearing in the Etymologies with the meaning "honeycomb" [VT45:38]. However, this word clashes with _nehtë "angle" or "spearhead, gore, wedge, narrow promontory" from later sources [PE17:55, UT:282].)

nehta

spearhead

nehta (1) noun "spearhead", isolated from nernehta, q.v.

neccë

angle

neccë ("k")noun "angle" (PE17:45). Variant of nehtë #1, q.v.

neccë

noun. angle

lís

noun. honey, honey, *sugar, sweetener

A word for “honey” in Definitive Linguistic Notes (DLN) from 1959 given as lîs and derived from the root √(G)LIS (PE17/154); the usual representation of a long vowel in Quenya would be ✱lís. In DLN Tolkien said that it sometimes appeared as līr- in inflections with the usual change of intervocalic s to r, but that its usual stem form was liss-. Indeed, in The Etymologies of the 1930s this word was ᴹQ. lis “honey” under the root ᴹ√LIS of the same meaning, and its stem form was also liss- as indicated by its [ᴹQ.] genitive lissen (Ety/LIS). Tolkien originally gave the base noun as lisse in The Etymologies, but this was deleted and replaced by lis (EtyAC/LIS). In The Etymologies its Noldorin cognate was N. glî.

Conceptual Development: A likely precursor to this word was ᴱQ. ile “honey” in Early Noldorin Word-lists of the 1920s, cognate to ᴱN. glí “honey” (GL/59).

Neo-Quenya: Since there are other honey-words in Quenya like Q. nehtë, I would use lís (liss-) for sweeteners in general, including both honey and sugar.

Derivations

  • LIS “*sweet, [ᴱ√] sweetness, [ᴹ√] honey” ✧ PE17/154

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
(G)LIS > lîs[līs]✧ PE17/154

Variations

  • lîs ✧ PE17/154

melu

honey

#melu noun "honey", isolated from melumatya, q.v. (PE17:68)

melu

noun. honey

A word for “honey” appearing only in the compound Q. melumatya “honey-eating” in notes from 1967 (PE17/68).

Element in

  • Q. melumatya “honey-eating” ✧ PE17/068
  • ᴺQ. meluquetya “sweet-speaking person, flatterer”

nehtelë

noun. honeycomb

Elements

WordGloss
nehtë“honey, honey; [ᴹQ.] honeycomb”
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vennassë

noun. angle

Cognates

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