saith

noun. hunger

Cognates

• Eq. saike “hunger”

Derivations

• ᴱ√SAẎA “hunger”

Element in

• En. Borosaith “Everhungry”
• G. magrusaith “bloodthirstiness”
• En. gagrosaith “greed”
• G. idrisaith “excessive love of gold and gems and beautiful and costly things”
• G. inig bast no odog saith “*small bread then great hunger” ✧ GL/51
• G. avosaith “avarice, money-greed, greed of gold”

hais

noun. hunger

The noun G. saith “hunger” appeared in the Gnomish Lexicon of the 1910s (GL/66), like based on the early root ᴱ√SAẎA “hunger” which was mostly used in combination with -kǝ (QL/82). In Early Noldorin Word-lists the word appeared as sais, revised to ᴱN. hais (PE13/147, 153) to reflect the fact that initial s generally became h in the Noldorin of the 1920s (HIPTN/§4.1.1). In this 1920s document its Qenya equivalent was ᴱQ. saiste indicating a primitive form of ✱saistē.

Neo-Sindarin: For purposes of Neo-Sindarin, I use ᴺS. saeg for “hunger” based on the Neo-Root ᴺ√SAYAK, a neologism coined by Fiona Jallings based on ᴱQ. saike “hunger” (FJNS/352). An argument can also be made for ᴺS. saeth as a more direct update of G. saith (perhaps < sayak-tē as suggested by Elaran in 2018), but I prefer saeg since its etymology is more transparent.

Changes

• sais → hais ✧ PE13/147
• sais → hais “hunger” ✧ PE13/153

Cognates

• Eq. saike “hunger” ✧ PE13/147

Derivations

• ᴱ√SAẎA “hunger”

Variations

• sais ✧ PE13/147 (sais); PE13/153 (sais)

saẏa

root. hunger

A root in the Qenya Lexicon of the 1910s appearing as ᴱ√SAẎA “hunger” mostly used in combination with suffixal -kǝ, having derivatives like ᴱQ. saike “hunger” and ᴱQ. saiqa “hungry” (QL/82). The root also had derivatives in the contemporaneous Gnomish Lexicon like G. saig “hungry” and G. saith “hunger” (GL/66). Some last indications of this root appears in Early Noldorin Word-lists from the 1920s in the words {saig >>} ᴱN. haib “hungry” and {sais >>} ᴱN. hais “hunger”, with Qenya cognates ᴱQ. saisa and ᴱQ. saiste respectively (PE13/146-7).

Neo-Eldarin: For purposes of Neo-Eldarin, I think it is worth positing an Neo-Root ᴺ√SAYAK “hunger” to salvage these early words.

Derivatives

• Eq. saike “hunger” ✧ QL/082
• Eq. saiqa “hungry” ✧ QL/082
• Eq. saita- “to be hungry (impersonal)” ✧ QL/082
• Eq. saitya- “to starve” ✧ QL/082
• En. haib “hungry”
• G. saig “hungry”
• En. hais “hunger”
• G. saith “hunger”
• G. saitha- “to have hunger”

saike

noun. hunger

A noun appearing as ᴱQ. saike (saiki-) “hunger” in the Qenya Lexicon under the early root ᴱ√SAẎA (QL/82). In Early Noldorin Word-lists of the 1920s, the Qenya word for “hunger” was instead saiste (PE13/147).

Neo-Quenya: For purposes of Neo-Quenya I would retain the noun ᴺQ. saicë “hunger” based on a Neo-Root ᴺ√SAYAK, but only as an archaic word so I could justify the retention of various famine-related words like ᴺQ. saicelë. For normal speech I would assume ᴺQ. maitië is the ordinary word for “hunger”, a noun form of the adjective Q. maita “hungry” from around 1960.

Cognates

• En. hais “hunger” ✧ PE13/147
• G. saith “hunger”

Derivations

• ᴱ√SAẎA “hunger” ✧ QL/082

Element in

• Eq. saikele “famine” ✧ QL/082
• Eq. saikelta- “to starve” ✧ QL/082

Phonetic Developments

Development	Stages	Sources
ᴱ√SAẎA > saike	[saθʲki] > [saθʲke] > [saðʲke] > [sajke] > [saike]	✧ QL/082

Variations

• saiste ✧ PE13/147

saiste

noun. hunger