Sindarin 

both

noun. fen, marsh, fen, marsh; [N.] puddle, small pool

The word N. both first appeared in The Etymologies of the 1930s with the gloss “puddle, small pool” as a derivative of the root ᴹ√MBOTH (Ety/MBOTH). It reappeared in Quenya Notes (QN) from 1957 as a derivative of √MOT “fen, marsh”, apparently of the same meaning, along with variants moth and amoth. For purposes of Neo-Sindarin, I’d use the form both and retain the 1957 and 1930s senses as derivations of slightly different roots.

Cognates

  • Q. motto “fen, marsh, fen, marsh; [ᴹQ.] blot” ✧ PE17/165

Derivations

  • MOT “fen, marsh” ✧ PE17/165

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
MOT > mbotto > both[mbotto] > [mbottʰo] > [mboθθo] > [boθθo] > [boθθ] > [boθ]✧ PE17/165

Variations

  • moth ✧ PE17/165
  • amoth ✧ PE17/165
Sindarin [PE17/165] Group: Eldamo. Published by

(a)moth

noun. fen, marsh

tad

cardinal. two

Sindarin [Ety/349, Ety/391, WJ/388, VT/42:25-27, VT/48:6] Group: SINDICT. Published by

tâd

cardinal. two

Sindarin [Ety/349, Ety/391, WJ/388, VT/42:25-27, VT/48:6] Group: SINDICT. Published by

tâd

cardinal. two

Cognates

  • Q. atta “two” ✧ PE17/095; VT42/26; VT48/06

Derivations

  • (a)tata “two” ✧ PE17/014; VT42/27
    • ATATA “two, two; [ᴹ√] again, back” ✧ VT42/27

Element in

  • S. tad-dal “two-legged, two-legged, *biped”
  • S. tadui “second” ✧ VT42/25
  • ᴺS. taphaen “twenty”

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
atata > (a)táta > tad[atata] > [tata] > [tat] > [tad] > [tād]✧ VT42/27

Variations

  • tad ✧ PE17/014 (tad); PE17/095; VT42/26; VT42/27; VT48/06
Sindarin [PE17/014; PE17/095; VT42/25; VT42/26; VT42/27; VT48/06] Group: Eldamo. Published by

loeg

noun. pool

Sindarin [S/407, UT/450, LotR/Map] Group: SINDICT. Published by

loeg

noun. pool

lîn

noun. pool

Sindarin [Ety/369, X/LH] Group: SINDICT. Published by

ui-

prefix. twi-

Derivations

  • YU “both, both, [ᴹ√] two”

Element in

  • S. uial “twilight, evendim” ✧ LotR/1111
Sindarin [LotR/1111] Group: Eldamo. Published by

rim

noun. cold pool or lake (in mountains)

Sindarin [Ety/384, X/RH] Group: SINDICT. Published by

both

small pool

(i moth, construct both) (puddle), pl. byth (i mbyth). David Salo would lengthen the vowel and read ✱bôth in Sindarin.

both

puddle

both (i moth) (small pool), pl. byth (i mbyth). David Salo would lengthen the vowel and read *bôth in Sindarin.

both

puddle

(i moth) (small pool), pl. byth (i mbyth). David Salo would lengthen the vowel and read ✱bôth in Sindarin.

both

small pool

both (i moth, construct both) (puddle), pl. byth (i mbyth). David Salo would lengthen the vowel and read *bôth in Sindarin.

both

small pool

both (i moth) (puddle), pl. byth (i mbyth). David Salo would lengthen the vowel and read *bôth in Sindarin.

ui

both

(adjectival prefix) ui- (two, twi-);

ui

both

(two, twi-);

ath

on both sides

(across)

tâd

cardinal. two

1) tâd (in compounds tad-, as in tad-dal ”two-legged”), 2) (adjectival prefix) ui- (twi-, both).

tâd

two

(in compounds tad-, as in tad-dal ”two-legged”)

ui

two

(twi-, both).

ael

pool

1) ael (aelin-, pl. aelin) (lake, mere). In ”Noldorin” oel, pl. oelin. 2)

ael

pool

(aelin-, pl. aelin) (lake, mere). In ”Noldorin” oel, pl. oelin.

loeg

pool

loeg (no distinct pl. form: loeg is also atttested with plural meaning) (VT45:29). 4) nên (water, lake, stream, waterland), construct nen, pl. nîn.

loeg

pool

(no distinct pl. form: loeg is also atttested with plural meaning) (VT45:29). 4) nên (water, lake, stream, waterland), construct nen, pl. nîn.

lîn

pool

lîn (lake), no distinct pl. form, but coll. pl. #**liniath (isolated from Hithliniath**, WJ:194). 3)

lîn

pool

(lake), no distinct pl. form, but coll. pl. #*liniath*** (isolated from Hithliniath**, WJ:194). 3)

ui

twi-

(adjectival prefix) ui- (two, both)

tad-dal

two-legged

(lenited dad-dal), pl. tad-dail.