Primitive elvish

web

root. *worm

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Noldorin 

nath

noun. web

A noun for “web” in The Etymologies of the 1930s derived from the root ᴹ√NAT “lace, weave, tie” with Quenya cognate ᴹQ. natse (Ety/NAT).

nath

noun. web

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thling

noun. spider, spider’s web, cobweb

A noun appearing as N. thling “spider, spider’s web, cobweb” in The Etymologies, derived from primitive ᴹ✶sliñgē under the root ᴹ√SLIG (Ety/SLIG).

Neo-Sindarin: Since initial *sl-* became *lh-* in Sindarin, most Neo-Sindarin writers adapt this word as ᴺS. lhing, as suggested in HSD (HSD). This word is somewhat questionable, since in later writings √ungu- was the basis for spider words (PE22/160). However, I think ᴹ√SLIG may be reinterpreted as having to do with threads, and as such I think ᴺS. lhing can be retained, though I would limit its use to “spider’s web, cobweb”, a synonym of nath “web” but descriptive of more diaphanous webs.

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gwî

noun. net, web

A noun in The Etymologies of the 1930s glossed “net, web” under the root ᴹ√WEY “wind, weave” (Ety/WEY).

Conceptual Development: The Gnomish Lexicon of the 1910s had G. gwith “net” based on the early root ᴱ√gwidh- “weave”, with an alternate form gwinn (GL/46).

Neo-Sindarin: In Tolkien’s later writings the root for “weave” became √WIR or √WIG, so I think this Noldorin word is not salvageable. For purposes of Neo-Sindarin, I would use N. nath for “web” and S. rem for “net”.

gwî

noun. net, web

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thling

noun. spider, spider's web, cobweb

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Quenya 

natsë

web, net

natsë noun "web, net" (NAT)

ungwë

spider's web

ungwë noun "spider's web", also name of tengwa #8 (Appendix E), or, in the pre-classical Tengwar system presupposed in the Etymologies, tengwa #20 which letter Tolkien would later call nwalmë (VT46:20). The word as such was defined as "gloom" in the Etymologies(UÑG), while in early "Qenya" it meant "spider" ("especially Ungwë the Gloomweaver" = Ungoliant) (LT1:271)

ungwë

noun. spider’s web, spider’s web; [ᴱQ.] spider; [ᴹQ.] gloom

A word for “spider’s web” appearing in The Lord of the Rings Appendix E, the name of tengwa #8 [x] (LotR/1122).

Conceptual Development: In the Qenya Lexicon of the 1910s, ᴱQ. ungwe was a word for “spider” under the early root ᴱ√GUŊU (QL/98). However, in The Etymologies of the 1930s, ᴹQ. ungwe was glossed “gloom” under the root ᴹ√UÑG (Ety/UÑG) in keeping with the 1930s translation of the name ᴹQ. Ungoliante = “Gloomweaver” (LR/230) where the second element ᴹQ. liante meant “spider” (Ety/SLIG). In notes on The Feanorian Alphabet from the 1940s ungwe was also glossed “(spider) gloom” (PE22/51). In Tolkien’s later writings he said √ungu- was again the basis for “spider words” (PE22/160), which explains the new translation in The Lord of the Rings appendices.

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línë

cobweb

línë noun "cobweb" (SLIG). Since Tolkien eventually decided that roots in sl- yield Quenya words in hl- (though this was pronounced l- in late Exilic Quenya), it may be that the spelling *hlínë is to be preferred.

natsemen

noun. website, (lit.) web-spot

A neologism for a “website” from the NQW, a combination of [ᴹQ.] natse “web” and [ᴹQ.] men “place, spot”.

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virsúre

noun. gauze, muslin, (lit.) woven wind

A neologism for “gauze, muslin” coined by Fëastorno posted on 2024-12-28 in the Vinyë Lambengolmor Discord Server (VLDS), a combination of √WIR “weave” and súrë “wind”, so more literally “woven wind”.

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Sindarin 

lhing

noun. spider, spider's web, cobweb

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gwî

web

  1. gwî (i **wî) (net), no distinct pl. form except with article (in gwî), 2) nath (pl. naith**).

gwî

web

(i ’wî) (net), no distinct pl. form except with article (in gwî)

nath

web

(pl. naith).

lhing

spiders web

*lhing (?i thling or ?i ling the lenition product of lh is uncertain) (cobweb), no distinct pl. form except possibly with article (?i ling). Suggested Sindarin form of ”Noldorin” thling.

lhing

spider’s web

(?i thling or ?i ling – the lenition product of lh is uncertain)  (cobweb), no distinct pl. form except possibly with article (?i ling). Suggested Sindarin form of ”Noldorin” thling.

lhing

spiders web, cobweb

*lhing (?i thling or ?i ling the lenition product of lh is uncertain) (also used = ”spider”); no distinct pl. form except possibly with article (?i ling). Suggested Sindarin form of ”Noldorin” thling.

lhing

noun. spider’s web, cobweb; spider

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lhing

spider’s web, cobweb

(?i thling or ?i ling – the lenition product of lh is uncertain) (also used = ”spider”); no distinct pl. form except possibly with article (?i ling). – Suggested Sindarin form of ”Noldorin” thling.

lhing

cobweb

*lhing (?i thling or ?i ling the lenition product of lh is uncertain) (spider, spiders web), no distinct pl. form except possibly with article (?i ling). Suggested Sindarin form of ”Noldorin” thling.

lhing

cobweb

(?i thling or ?i ling – the lenition product of lh is uncertain)  (spider, spider’s web), no distinct pl. form except possibly with article (?i ling). – Suggested Sindarin form of ”Noldorin” thling.

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Doriathrin

nass

noun. web

A Doriathrin noun for “web” (Ety/NAT). Its Quenya cognate ᴹQ. natse indicates a primitive form ✱✶natsē, where the [ts] became [ss] because [[ilk|medial voiceless stops became [s] before [s]]] in Ilkorin.

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Gnomish

gwaidhin

noun. web

A word for “web” in the Gnomish Lexicon of the 1910s, derived from the early root ᴱ√gu̯iđ and related to G. gwidh- “weave” (GL/46). It had a deleted variant gwaith².

gwidh-a-ging

noun. cobweb

A word for “cobweb” in the Gnomish Lexicon of the 1910s (GL/46). Its initial element seems to be G. gwidh- “weave”, and its final element might be a variant of G. gung “spider” (though this word was deleted).

Early Quenya

kangale

noun. web

A word for “web” in the Qenya Lexicon of the 1910s, based on the verb ᴱQ. kanga- “weave, spin” from the early root ᴱ√KANGA (QL/45), also appearing in the contemporaneous Poetic and Mythological Words of Eldarissa (PME/45).

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kangawinda

noun. cobweb

A word for “cobweb” in the Qenya Lexicon of the 1910s (QL/45), apparently a combination of the verb ᴱQ. kanga- “weave” and the noun ᴱQ. winda “woof”. It also appeared in the contemporaneous Poetic and Mythological Words of Eldarissa (PME/45).

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Qenya 

natse

noun. web, net, web, net[work]

A noun in The Etymologies of the 1930s glossed “web, net” under the root ᴹ√NAT “lace, weave, tie” (Ety/NAT).

Neo-Quenya: There are later words for “[spider’s] web” (ungwë) and “[physical] net” (raima or rembë), but I would retain natse for a more general sense “web, net[work]” applying to any interlacing of connected things (physical or metaphorical). This allows the retention of several early neologisms having to do with the internet.

líne

noun. cobweb, cobweb; [ᴱQ.] cotton, thread

A noun for “cobweb” in The Etymologies of the 1930s derived from primitive ᴹ✶slignē under the root ᴹ√SLIG (Ety/SLIG).

Conceptual Development: In the Qenya Lexicon of the 1910s Tolkien gave ᴱQ. līnẹ “thread, cotton” under the early root ᴱ√LI+ya (QL/53).

Neo-Quenya: This word is somewhat questionable, since in later writings, Tolkien derived spider words from √ungu-. However, I prefer to interpret ᴹ√(S)LIG as having to do with threads for purposes of Neo-Eldarin, and “cobweb” could be from a sense “collection of threads”. With this interpretation, I think it is also plausible to include the sense “cotton” from Early Qenya, though for “thread” I’d use other words like Q. ipsin or [ᴹQ.] lia. Helge Fauskanger suggested (QQ/líne) that this word should be ✱hlíne given primitive initial sl-, but there is another primitive form ᴹ✶ligā under the root, so perhaps the Quenya derivatives were (a) based from a variant root ᴹ√LIG or (b) reflect the Third Age Quenya pronunciation as voiced l (LotR/1114).

filet

noun. cobweb

A word in in the Declension of Nouns of the early 1930s glossed {“fern” >>} “cobweb” (PE21/33 and note #3). Its initial gloss was probably a later iteration of ᴱQ. filqe “fern” from the Qenya Lexicon of the 1910s (QL/38), and in later writings filit (filik-) was a word for “small bird, sparrow” (Ety/PHILIK; PE21/56), so this was likely a transient form.

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Middle Primitive Elvish

slignē

noun. spider, spider’s web, cobweb

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slingē

noun. spider, spider’s web, cobweb

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Early Primitive Elvish

gweve

root. *worm

A root in the Qenya Lexicon of the 1910s with derivatives like ᴱQ. wembe/G. gwem “worm” (QL/103, GL/45). There are no signs of this root in Tolkien’s later writing. It might be worth retaining this root for the purposes of Neo-Eldarin (as ᴺ√WEB) to salvage some of its early derivatives; there is the much later root √LEWEK “worm” (PE17/160), but its derivatives (particularly in Quenya) seem to have more do to with snakes than insects.

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