Primitive elvish

thith

root. singe, etc.

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tad(a)

adverb. thither, thereto, to that

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san-

noun. that

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si

root. this, this, [ᴹ√] here, now

Tolkien used √SI as the basis for “near demonstratives” like “here” and “now” from very early in his writings on Elvish. The Qenya Lexicon of the 1910s had two competing roots ᴱ√HYA “this by us” with derivatives like ᴱQ. hyá “here by us” (QL/41) and ᴱ√KI “this by me” with derivative ᴱQ. tyá (< ᴱ✶kı̯-ā) “now” (QL/41, 49). Indications of the latter can be seen words in the contemporaneous Gnomish Lexicon such as G. {“now” >>} “here” and G. cîrin “present (place or time), modern” [gloss deleted] (GL/26). However, Tolkien also introduced a new root ᴱ√si(n) “this here by me” with derivatives like G. “here” and G. sith “hither” (GL/68). Revisions of Gnomish ci- word glosses indicate Tolkien was vacillating on which forms were temporal and which were spatial.

In The Etymologies Tolkien gave the root ᴹ√SI “this, here, now” with derivatives like ᴹQ. or sin “now” and ᴹQ. sinya/N. sein “new” (Ety/SI). The root √SI was mentioned a couple times in Tolkien’s later writings, usually glossed “this” (PE17/67; VT48/25; VT49/18) and in one place with the variant √SIN (PE17/67). This root was not entirely without competition in Tolkien’s later notes, however: in one place he gave primitive ✶khĭn- as the possible basis for Q. “here” and S. “now” in 1968 notes on demonstratives, though it appeared beside primitive ✶si- forms (VT49/34 note #21).

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sin

root. this

sĭnā

adjective. this

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malu

noun. dust

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Quenya 

Entar

thither lands, middle-earth, outer lands, east

Entar place-name "Thither Lands, Middle-earth, Outer Lands, East" (seen from Aman) (EN)

Entarda

thither lands, middle-earth, outer lands, east

Entarda place-name "Thither Lands, Middle-earth, Outer Lands, East" (seen from Aman) (EN, VT45:12)

tamen

thither

tamen adv. "thither" (VT49:33). Compare simen.

tande

thither

tande adv. "thither" (MC:215; this is "Qenya")

tanna

thither

tanna (2) pron. in allative "thither" (VT14:5, PE16:96; evidently to be understood as the allative of ta #2: "to that [place]"). Compare tar and locative tassë.

tar

adverb. thither

PQ. thither

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tar

thither

tar (1) adv. or technically pron. with old allative ending: "thither" (TA). This is ta #1 with the same allative ending -r (from primitive -da) as in mir "into". Compare tanna. According to VT49:11, tar may also appear in the logner form tara.

tara

thither

tara adv. "thither"; see tar #1.

tanna

adverb. thither

tar(a)

adverb. thither, thither; [ᴹQ.] beyond

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tamen

adverb. thither

i

pronoun. that

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i, antevokaliskt in

conjunction. that

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ne

that

ne (2) conj. "that" (as in "I know that you are here") (PE14:54), evidently replaced by i in Tolkiens later Quenya (see i #3).

sa

conjunction. that

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sana

that

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savin elessar ar <u>i</u> nánë aran ondórëo

that

i (3) conj. "that". Savin Elessar ar i nánë aran Ondórëo "I believe that Elessar really existed and that [he] was a king of Gondor" (VT49:27), savin…i E[lesarno] quetië naitë *"I believe that Elessars speaking [is] true" (VT49:28) Also cf. nai, nái "be it that" (see nai #1), which may seem to incorporate this conjunction.

si

this

sina

this

sina demonstrative "this" (following its noun in our sole example: vanda sina "this oath"). (CO, VT49:18; in the latter source, sina _is called an adjective). _This word would, like Sindarin hen, be derived from primitive ¤sĭnā (VT49:34). Cf. sin #1.

sina

adjective. this

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ta

that, it

ta (1) pron. "that, it" (TA); compare antaróta** "he gave it" (FS); see anta-. The forms tar/tara/tanna "thither", talo/ "thence" and tás/tassë* "there" are originally inflected forms of this pronoun: "to that", "from that" and "in that" (place), respectively. Compare "there" as one gloss of ta (see #4).

tana

that

tana (1) demonstrative "that" (said to be "anaphoric") (TA). According to VT49:11, tana is the adjective corresponding to ta, "that" as a pronoun.

tana

that

tanya

that

tanya demonstrative "that" (MC:215; this is "Qenya", perhaps corresponding to later tana)

yana

that

yana demonstrative "that" (the former) (YA)

lendë tanna nieliccilis

*thither came little Niéle

mir

to the inside, into

mir (1) prep. with old allative ending "to the inside, into"(also minna) (MI). This is mi "in" with the same allative ending -r (from primitive ¤-da) as in tar "thither", q.v.

asto

dust

asto noun "dust" (ÁS-AT). According to VT45:6, asto was the name of tengwa #13 in the pre-classical system presupposed in the Etymologies, but Tolkien would later change the name of this letter to anto (its Quenya value changing from st to nt).

minna

to the inside, into

minna prep. "to the inside, into" (also mir) (MI); variant mina "into" (VT43:30), possibly occurring, compounded, in minasurie, q.v.

Sindarin 

taw

adverb. thither

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han

that

pl1. hain _pron. _that, the thing previously mentioned. Tolkien notes "hain = heinn (< san-)" (PE17:42). Im Narvi hain echant 'I Narvi made them'.

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hen

pronoun. this

pl1. hin _ dem. pron. _this.

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san

pronoun. that

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sen

adjective. this

This demonstrative adjective is probably enclitic. We have suggested that this possibility could perhaps explain why the mutated form of tîw on the Doors of Durin is thiw instead of the expected thîw, see HL/69

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sen

pronoun. this

pl1. sín {ī}_ dem. pron. _this.

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sen

pronoun. this

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sen

this

*sen, lenited hen. Only attested in lenited pl. form hin* (unlenited sin) ”these” in the Moria Gate inscription (i thiw hin**, ”these letters”).

taw

that

(demonstrative pronoun) ?taw. _Only the ”Old Noldorin” form is actually given in LR:389 s.v. _

i

that

(+ soft mutation), basically in in the plural, but often loses the n which is then replaced by nasal mutation of the next consonant (e.g. gyrth i chuinar ”dead that live [cuinar]”, Letters:417). Sometimes i (+ soft mutation) is used in the singular as well. – The form ai (following by lenition) occurs in the phrase di ai gerir ✱”those who do” (VT44:23). Possibly it is a form of the relative pronoun that is used when the previous word ends in -i. Whether ai is both sg. and pl. is unclear; in its one attestation it is followed by a plural verb that is lenited.

sa

pronoun. that

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se

pronoun. this

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sen

this

lenited hen. Only attested in lenited pl. form hin (unlenited ✱sin) ”these” in the Moria Gate inscription (i thiw hin, ”these letters”).

taw

pronoun. that

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taw

that

. Only the ”Old Noldorin” form is actually given in LR:389 s.v.

athren

adjective. dusty

A neologism for “dusty” created by Paul Strack specifically for Eldamo in 2018, inspired by G. thithrin. It is an adjectival form of S. ast, with the thr the result of sound changes similar to othrond = ost + rond. When this entry was first created in 2018, it was given as astren without the sound change, but I modified it to athren in 2021.

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ast

dust

1) ast (pl. aist if there is a pl.), 2) lith (sand, ash) (Names:178)

ast

dust

(pl. aist if there is a pl.)

lith

dust

(sand, ash) (Names:178)

Noldorin 

then

pronoun. this

ast

noun. dust

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ast

noun. dust

A noun in The Etymologies of the 1930s glossed “dust” derived from the root ᴹ√ÁS-AT (Ety/ÁS-AT).

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Gnomish

thith

noun. dust

A noun in the Gnomish Lexicon of the 1910s glossed “dust”, appearing below other forms like G. thisin “parched, withered” (GL/73). The latter is clearly a cognate of ᴱQ. sisin from the contemporaneous Qenya Lexicon, and hence is derived from the root ᴱ√SISI as it appeared in that document (QL/84), though its Gnomish derivatives make it clear the actual root was ✱ᴱ√ÞISI.

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thithrin

adjective. dusty

A word for “dusty” in the Gnomish Lexicon of the 1910s, simply an adjectival form of G. thith “dust” (GL/73).

hant

adverb. thither

sitha

adjective. this

entha

adverb. there by you, thither

Early Noldorin

lhith

noun. dust

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Early Quenya

tande

adverb. thither

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elle tande nielikkilis

thither came little Niéle

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ike

adjective. this

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ne

conjunction. that

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ni

adjective. this

qi

adjective. this

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qinda

adjective. this

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qinqe

noun. this

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sanda

adjective. that

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santo

pronoun. that

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si

adjective. this

tanya

adjective. that

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táma

adjective. this

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Qenya 

tar

adverb. thither, beyond

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entarda

place name. Thither Lands, Middle-earth, Outer Lands, East

A name for the lands of the East in The Etymologies from the 1930s, also appearing as Entar (Ety/EN). It is apparently a compound of enta “that yonder” and arda “region”. Oddly, it was also glossed “Middle-earth”, though The Etymologies had plenty of other names with that meaning.

tanna

adverb. thither

i

pronoun. that

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in

pronoun. that

sa

pronoun. that

sana

adjective. that

asto

noun. dust

A noun in The Etymologies of the 1930s glossed “dust” derived from the root ᴹ√ÁS-AT (Ety/ÁS-AT). It was also mentioned in The Feanorian Alphabet from the late 1930s with the same form and meaning (PE22/21-22), and in the revisions of that document from the 1940s, though there it was replaced with ᴹQ. osto as a name for one of the tengwar (PE22/50). This replacement may only have to do with tengwar names, and doesn’t necessarily invalidate asto “dust”.

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mulo

noun. dust, dust, [ᴱQ.] fine powder

A word in the Declension of Nouns from the early 1930s glossed “dust”, given as an example of declensions for nouns that in ancient times ended with short : mulǔ- (PE21/10-11). It is probably a later iteration of ᴱQ. mul (muld-) “fine powder” from the Qenya Lexicon of the 1910s, a derivative of the early root ᴱ√MULU “grind (fine)” (QL/63). In notes from the late 1950s or early 1960s, Tolkien gave Q. mulë for “meal” = “✱coarsely ground flour”, so it seems ✱√MUL “grind” either survived or was restored. For purposes of Neo-Eldarin, I think it is appropriate to use this word with the earlier sense “fine powder” as well.

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Old Noldorin 

adverb. thither

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Middle Primitive Elvish

tad

adverb. thither

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ta

root. that

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Early Primitive Elvish

þisi Reconstructed

root. singe, etc.

The root ᴱ√SISI “singe, etc.” appeared in the Qenya Lexicon of the 1910s with derivatives ᴱQ. sisi- “scorch, singe, fry” and ᴱQ. sisin “parched, scorched” (QL/84). Its derivatives in the contemporaneous Gnomish Lexicon were words like G. thisin “parched, withered” and G. thith “dust” (GL/73), indicating an actual root form ✱ᴱ√ÞISI.

Neo-Eldarin: For purposes of Neo-Eldarin I think it is worth positing a Neo-Root ᴺ√THITH to salvage some of these early words; ᴺ√THITH is better than ✱ᴺ√THIS if we wish retain Early Qenya forms, as otherwise they would become sir- rather than sis-.

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sisi

root. singe, etc.

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