adj. grey, light grey. >> Mithrandir, mithril
Sindarin
mîth
mîth
mîth
noun. *Sinda, Grey-Elf
Derivations
Element in
Phonetic Developments
Development Stages Sources ✶mītha > mîth [mītha] > [mīth] ✧ PE17/140 Variations
- mîth ✧ PE17/140
- maeth ✧ PE17/140
- mith ✧ PE17/140
- maiþ ✧ PE17/140 (
maiþ)- mĭth ✧ PE17/140 (
mĭth)
hîth
noun. mist, fog
hîth
noun. mist
Cognates
Derivations
- √KHITH “mist, mist, [ᴹ√] fog”
Element in
- S. Hithaeglir “Misty Mountains, (lit.) Line of Misty Peaks” ✧ SA/hîth
- S. hithlain “mist thread, grey elvish rope”
- north S. Hithlum “Land of Mist” ✧ SA/hîth
- S. hithren “grey”
- S. hithui “misty”
- S. Nen Hithoel “Mist-cool Water” ✧ RC/328; SA/hîth
Variations
- Hith ✧ RC/328
mith
adjective. (pale) grey
mith
grey
mithren
adjective. grey
mithren
adjective. grey
Changes
mithren→ hithren ✧ PE17/140Element in
- S. Ered Mithrin “Grey Mountains” ✧ LotR/1064
- S. Mithrellas
Elements
Word Gloss mith “grey, light grey, pale grey” -ren “adjective suffix”
mithrim
place name. Sindar
A lake in northwest Beleriand (S/106) named after the Elves who lived there (WJ/378). This name was the inspiration for Q. Sindar (PE17/140), and is a combination of mith “grey” and the class-plural suffix -rim (SA/mith, rim).
Conceptual Development: In the earliest Lost Tales, this lake was called G. Asgon (L1T1/238, GL/20), revised to ᴱN. Mithrim towards the end of the tales (LT2/202). The form N. Mithrim appeared in Silmarillion drafts from the 1930s (SM/4, LR/249), and also in The Etymologies, but with its first element being N. mith “white fog, wet mist” and its second element N. rhim “cold pool or lake (in mountains)”, hence “✱Mist Lake” (Ety/MITH, RINGI). The derivation from the name of the people came later (WJ/378), perhaps inspired in the real world by Q. Sindar, the reverse of the inspiration in the fictional world.
Element in
- S. Mithrimin
Elements
Word Gloss mith “grey, light grey, pale grey” -rim “collective or group plural”
hithu
noun. fog
hithren
adjective. grey
_ adj. _grey. >> thind
hithren
adjective. grey
Elements
Word Gloss hîth “mist”
hithlain
noun. mist-thread (a substance used by the Elves of Lothlórien to make strong ropes)
thin
adjective. grey
thend
noun. *Sinda, Grey-Elf
Changes
thind→ thend ✧ PE17/140thinið→ thineð ✧ PE17/141Cognates
- Q. Sinda “Grey-elf” ✧ PE17/141; PE17/140; PE17/141
Derivations
Element in
Phonetic Developments
Development Stages Sources ✶thindā > thenn [tʰindā] > [tʰinda] > [θinda] > [θenda] > [θend] > [θenn] ✧ PE17/141 ✶thinida > thineð [tʰinida] > [θinida] > [θineda] > [θineða] > [θineð] ✧ PE17/141 Variations
- thend ✧ PE17/140; PE17/141 (thend)
- thind ✧ PE17/140 (
thind)- Thinn(d) ✧ PE17/140
- thenn ✧ PE17/141
- Thind ✧ PE17/141
- thineð ✧ PE17/141
- thinið ✧ PE17/141 (
thinið)
thind
adjective. grey, pale
thind
adjective. grey
thind
adjective. grey
_ adj. _grey. Obsolete except in names as Thingol. >> hithren
thind
adjective. grey, grey, [N.] pale
if from þindā, why no a-affection? @@@
Cognates
Derivations
Element in
- ᴺS. thindrostir “badger”
- S. Thindrim “Sindar”
- S. Thingódhel “*Grey Noldo”
- S. Thingol “Greycloak, Greymantle” ✧ PE17/072; PE17/112; SA/thin(d)
- S. Thinnedhel “Grey-elf”
- S. Thinrod “noble member of the Thindrim”
Phonetic Developments
Development Stages Sources ✶þindā > thin(n) [tʰindā] > [tʰinda] > [θinda] > [θind] > [θinn] ✧ PE17/072 ✶þindĭ- > thind [tʰindi] > [tʰinde] > [θinde] > [θind] ✧ PE17/140 ✶thĭndĭ > thind [tʰindi] > [θindi] > [θind] > [θinn] ✧ PE17/141 Variations
- thin(n) ✧ PE17/072; PE17/112
- thinn ✧ PE17/141; PE17/141
- thin(d) ✧ SA/thin(d)
thinn
adjective. grey
thinn
adjective. grey
_adj. _grey. Q. sinde.
thinn
adjective. grey
thindrim
collective name. Sindar
A Sindarin equivalent of Q. Sindar (VT41/9), a combination of thind “grey” and the class-plural suffix -rim.
Cognates
- Q. Sinda “Grey-elf” ✧ VT41/09
Elements
Word Gloss thind “grey, grey, [N.] pale” -rim “collective or group plural”
nimp
adjective. pale
adj. pale, pallid. nimp << nim (PE17:168). >> niphred
elu
pale blue
(analogical pl. ely). Archaic elw (pl. ilw?).
gael
pale
(glittering), lenited ’ael; no distinct pl. form.
hîth
mist
hîth (i chîth) (fog), no distinct pl. form, not even with article (i chîth).
hîth
mist
(i chîth) (fog), no distinct pl. form, not even with article (i chîth).
hîth
fog
1) hîth (i chîth) (mist), no distinct pl. form, not even with article (i chîth), 2) *hithu (i chithu), analogical pl. hithy (i chithy). Cited in archaic form hithw (LR:364 s.v. KHIS, KHITH), so the coll. pl. is likely hithwath.
hîth
fog
(i chîth) (mist), no distinct pl. form, not even with article (i chîth)
mith
wet mist
(i vith) (white fog), no distinct pl. form except with article (i mith). David Salo would read mîth with a long vowel. Note: a homophone is the adjective ”pale grey”. ✱
mith
white fog
(i vith) (wet mist), no distinct pl. form except with article (i mith). David Salo would read mîth with a long vowel. Note: a homophone is the adjective ”pale grey”.
mith
grey
(lenited vith; no distinct pl. form). David Salo would read mîth with a long vowel. Note: a homophone means ”white fog, wet mist”.
mith
pale grey
(lenited vith; no distinct pl. form). David Salo would read mîth with a long vowel. Note: a homophone means ”white fog, wet mist”.
mith
wet mist
mith (i vith) (white fog), no distinct pl. form except with article (i mith). David Salo would read mîth with a long vowel. Note: a homophone is the adjective ”pale grey”. *
mith
wet mist
mith (i vith) (white fog), no distinct pl. form except with article (i mith). David Salo would read mîth with a long vowel. Note: a homophone is the adjective ”pale grey”.
mith
wet mist
(i vith) (white fog), no distinct pl. form except with article (i mith). David Salo would read mîth with a long vowel. Note: a homophone is the adjective ”pale grey”.
mithren
grey
1) *mithren (lenited vithren, pl. mithrin). 2) thind (pale); no distinct pl. form. 3) (pale grey) mith (lenited vith; no distinct pl. form). David Salo would read mîth with a long vowel. Note: a homophone means ”white fog, wet mist”.
mithren
grey
(lenited vithren, pl. mithrin).
hithu
noun. fog
Derivations
- √KHITH “mist, mist, [ᴹ√] fog”
hithu
fog
(i chithu), analogical pl. hithy (i chithy). Cited in archaic form hithw (LR:364 s.v. KHIS, KHITH), so the coll. pl. is likely hithwath.
maidh
pale
1) maidh (lenited vaidh; no distinct pl. form) (fallow, fawn), 2) nimp (nim-) (white); no distinct pl. form, 3) thind (grey); no distinct pl. form; 4) gael (glittering), lenited ael; no distinct pl. form. 5) *malu (lenited valu; analogical pl. mely; lenited valu) (fallow). Cited in archaic form malw (LR:386 s.v. SMAL).
maidh
pale
(lenited vaidh; no distinct pl. form) (fallow, fawn)
hithlain
mist-thread
name of a fiber made in Lórien.
thind
grey
(pale); no distinct pl. form.
thind
pale
(grey); no distinct pl. form
malu
pale
(lenited valu; analogical pl. mely; lenited valu) (fallow). Cited in archaic form malw (LR:386 s.v. SMAL).
nimp
pale
(nim-) (white); no distinct pl. form
gwind
pale blue
(lenited ’wind; no distinct pl. form).
The Sindarin word for “mist”, an element in many names, derived from the root √KHITH of the same meaning (SA/hîth; PE17/73).
Conceptual Development: N. hîth “mist” appeared in The Etymologies of the 1930s, already with the derivation given above (Ety/KHIS), though when Tolkien first defined the word, he first wrote (and then deleted) the gloss “fog” (EtyAC/KHIS). In The Etymologies as published in The Lost Road, Christopher Tolkien wrote hith (LR/364), but Carl Hostetter and Patrick Wynne confirmed that the actual form was hîth in their Addenda and Corrigenda to the Etymologies (VT45/22).