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Thingol

noun. 'Grey-cloak'

prop. n. 'Grey-cloak'. Q. Sindacollo, Sindikollo. >> thin, thind, thinn

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thingol

masculine name. Greycloak, Greymantle

Lord of Doriath whose name was translated “Greymantle” (S/56) or “Greycloak” (WJ/410), a combination of thind “grey” (SA/thin(d)) and the lenited form of coll “cloak”.

Conceptual Development: In earliest Lost Tales, this name appeared variously as G. Tintoglin (LT1/131), G. Tinthellon or Tinto’ellon (LT2/50, 61) and G. Tinwelint, the last of these being his most common name in the early tales (LT1/115, LT2/50, GL/70). The name Thingol emerged in the Lays of Beleriand from the 1920s (LB/9) and was used thereafter. In Early Noldorin notes from this period, ᴱN. Thingol contained the word ᴱN. thing “prince” (PE13/154).

In The Etymologies from the 1930s, the name Thingol was designated Doriathrin [Ilkorin], and its second element was first Ilk. gôl “light” (Ety/KAL) and then Ilk. (n)gôl “wise” (Ety/THIN). In Silmarillion revisions from the 1950s-60s, the later meaning of his name “Greycloak” emerged along with its Quenya equivalent Sindicollo (MR/217).

Cognates

  • Q. Sindacollo “Grey-cloak, Greymantle” ✧ PE17/072; SI/Greymantle; SI/Sindar; SI/Thingol
  • Q. Sindicollo “Grey-cloak” ✧ PM/337; PMI/Sindikollo; PMI/Thingol; WJ/410; MR/217
  • Q. Singollo “Grey-cloak, Greymantle” ✧ LBI/Elu; SI/Elwë; SI/Sindar; SI/Singollo; SI/Thingol; UTI/Elu; UTI/Thingol; PE21/85; WJI/Elwë

Elements

WordGloss
thind“grey, grey, [N.] pale”
coll“cloak, mantle”
Sindarin [LBI/Elu; LotRI/Thingol; LT1I/Thingol; LT1I/Tinwelint; LT2I/Elu Thingol; MR/217; MRI/Thingol; PE17/072; PE17/112; PE21/85; PM/337; PMI/Sindikollo; PMI/Thingol; S/056; SA/thin(d); SI/Elwë; SI/Greymantle; SI/Sindar; SI/Singollo; SI/Thingol; UTI/Elu; UTI/Thingol; WJ/410; WJI/Elwë; WJI/Thingol] Group: Eldamo. Published by

thin

adjective. grey

adj. grey. Q. sinda. >> thind, Thingol, thinn

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thind

adjective. grey, pale

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thind

adjective. grey

adj. grey. Q. sinda. >> thin, Thingol, thinn

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thind

adjective. grey

_ adj. _grey. Obsolete except in names as Thingol. >> hithren

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thind

adjective. grey, grey, [N.] pale

if from þindā, why no a-affection? @@@

Cognates

  • Q. sinda “grey” ✧ PE17/072; SA/thin(d)
  • Q. sindë “grey, pale or silvery grey, grey, pale or silvery grey, [ᴹQ.] pale” ✧ PE17/141; PE17/141; PE17/141

Derivations

  • thindā “grey” ✧ PE17/072
  • thindi “grey” ✧ PE17/140; PE17/141; PE17/141
    • THIN “*grey” ✧ WJ/384

Element in

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
þindā > thin(n)[tʰindā] > [tʰinda] > [θinda] > [θind] > [θinn]✧ PE17/072
þindĭ- > thind[tʰindi] > [tʰinde] > [θinde] > [θind]✧ PE17/140
thĭndĭ > thind[tʰindi] > [θindi] > [θind] > [θinn]✧ PE17/141

Variations

  • thin(n) ✧ PE17/072; PE17/112
  • thinn ✧ PE17/141; PE17/141
  • thin(d) ✧ SA/thin(d)
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thinn

adjective. grey

adj. grey. Q. sinda. >> thin, thind, Thingol

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thinn

adjective. grey

_adj. _grey. Q. sinde.

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thinn

adjective. grey

hithren

adjective. grey

_ adj. _grey. >> thind

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hithren

adjective. grey

Elements

WordGloss
hîth“mist”
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mithren

adjective. grey

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mithren

adjective. grey

Changes

  • mithrenhithren ✧ PE17/140

Element in

Elements

WordGloss
mith“grey, light grey, pale grey”
-ren“adjective suffix”
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mith

adjective. (pale) grey

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mith

grey

adj. grey, light grey. >> Mithrandir, mithril

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ernil

noun. prince

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ernil

noun. prince

A noun for “prince” appearing in phrases like Ernil i Pheriannath “Prince of the Halflings” (LotR/768) and Dor-en-Ernil “Land of the Prince” (UT/245). Its initial element is likely a reduced form of aran “king, noble person”; compare to ar(a)- “noble” of similar origin. If so, the a became e due to i-affection. The final -il is harder to explain, because normally -il is a feminine suffix. Perhaps it is a reduction of hîl “heir”, so that the literal meaning is “✱king’s heir, royal heir”.

Conceptual Development: N. ernil also appeared in Lord of the Rings drafts from the 1940s (WR/287).

Element in

Elements

WordGloss
aran“king, lord, chief, (lit.) high or noble person, king, lord, chief, (lit.) high or noble person; [N.] lord (of a specific region)”
hîl“heir”

Variations

  • Ernil ✧ Let/425; LotR/0768; LotR/0807; UT/245
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caun

prince

pl1. cónin {ō} n. prince, chief, head.

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cund

noun. prince

Sindarin [Ety/366, VT/45:24, X/ND1] Group: SINDICT. Published by

caun

noun. prince, ruler

Sindarin [LotR/VI:IV, Letters/308] MS *kaun, Q. cáno. Group: SINDICT. Published by

Thingol

Greycloak

His epessë (honorary name) was Thingol (thind "grey" and coll "mantle") which means "Greycloak".

Quenya tradition names him Elwë and Singollo.

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Thingol

Thingol

His epessë (honorary name) was Thingol (thind "grey" and coll "mantle") which means "Greycloak". Quenya tradition names him Elwë and Singollo.

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thind

grey

(pale); no distinct pl. form.

mithren

grey

1) *mithren (lenited vithren, pl. mithrin). 2) thind (pale); no distinct pl. form. 3) (pale grey) mith (lenited vith; no distinct pl. form). David Salo would read mîth with a long vowel. Note: a homophone means ”white fog, wet mist”.

mithren

grey

(lenited vithren, pl. mithrin).

mith

grey

(lenited vith; no distinct pl. form). David Salo would read mîth with a long vowel. Note: a homophone means ”white fog, wet mist”.

conin

prince

(i chonin), occurring in the Cormallen Praise, is translated "princes" (Conin en Annûn = "princes of the west", Letters:308), but it is unclear what the singular would be. (David Salo suggests caun, though this word has two different meanings already; see

ernil

prince

1) ernil (no distinct pl. form), 2) †cund (i gund, o chund, construct cun), pl. cynd (i chynd) (VT45:24). 3) The plural form conin (i chonin), occurring in the Cormallen Praise, is translated "princes" (Conin en Annûn = "princes of the west", Letters:308), but it is unclear what the singular would be. (David Salo suggests caun, though this word has two different meanings already; see SHOUT, VALOUR)

ernil

prince

(no distinct pl. form)

cund

prince

(i gund, o chund, construct cun), pl. cynd (i chynd) (VT45:24).